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GLASS ORNAMENT ????
« on: December 09, 2011, 06:12:00 AM »
DOES ANY BODY KNOW HOW AND WHAT TYPE OF PAINT TO USE TO PAINT THE INSIDE OF A CLEAR GLASS
CHRISTMAS ORNAMENT ??

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Re: GLASS ORNAMENT ????
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2011, 09:13:01 AM »
I'm not sure how much help this will be Jan, but I have dabbled in glass painting, though it was many years ago.  Anyway, I used Pebeo Vitrail Transparent Glass Paint and I used an outliner with it as it's very fluid, so my thinking is that if you poured some of the paint into the glass ornament and swirled it around it would cover the inside.  You could pour out any excess and once dry do additional layers if you want it darker.  It also comes come in many colours.  I'm assuming that when you say glass ornament, you're referring to what we would call a glass bauble?  Just make sure you get a paint that doesn't need to be cured, if what you're doing incorporates polymer clay, as some glass paints need to be cured at 160 degrees C.  Hope that helps.

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Re: GLASS ORNAMENT ????
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2011, 09:24:07 AM »
DOES ANY BODY KNOW HOW AND WHAT TYPE OF PAINT TO USE TO PAINT THE INSIDE OF A CLEAR GLASS
CHRISTMAS ORNAMENT ??

Hi Peter,

I could find this, but I'm not sure if this is what you need, it's to cure in a regular owen.
(Jinnie recommended pebeo-porcelaine-150)

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« Last Edit: December 09, 2011, 09:34:08 AM by ejralph »
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Re: GLASS ORNAMENT ????
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2011, 09:38:40 AM »
Most commercial glass ornaments are made reflective by chemically silvering the inside of the ornament, not done with paint.

So you would be unlikely to get that high mirror finish with any paints. But I would say that any of the commercially available glass or porcelain paints are likely to be ideal for colouring them in regular painting ways. Like Mel says though, just watch to see if they need to be heat-set if you are adding polymer clay into the equation.

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Re: GLASS ORNAMENT ????
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2011, 09:46:18 AM »
Forgot the link policy - sorry

The brand name: Pebeo Porcelaine

It's quite a big thing in DK, and can be bought in most Hobby shops.

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Re: GLASS ORNAMENT ????
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2011, 05:57:24 PM »
Thanks I will look those up.
What i am doing is cut & replace with clay on the outside and where the clear glass shows i either want to paint the inside of glass and be done or fill the clear areas with glitter, but i did one with white glitter but still need to paint the inside white to back up the the whiteness of the glitter.

I dont think i can heat this one at this point .


I have seen somewhere using spray adhesive and mica powders on the inside it might have been a Jaquard pamphlet i saw once ??

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Re: GLASS ORNAMENT ????
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2011, 03:44:10 AM »
ok so i tried
Americana brand craft gloss enamel paint made by DecoArt $1.79

next was Folkart Brand Enamels  made by Plaid  $1.39

last was Martha Stewart brand Multi surface Pearl also made by Plaid $2.99

I had to thin each a teeny tiny bit

american & folkart said dry 24hrs and bake @350 for 30 min. or will cure in 21 days

martha stewart said on glass cure 21 days - top rack dish washer safe


i poured each in  separate glass orn.  &  swirled and turned to coat and poured out exess
continuing to turn over the next day to dry an keep even and drain more excess

the martha stewart far exceeded the others in one coat and dried the fastest

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Re: GLASS ORNAMENT ????
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2011, 03:50:09 AM »
all in all  i think  next time i will just paint on the outside of glass if i am just tring to back up white glitter
I'll post my ornament tomorrow

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Re: GLASS ORNAMENT ????
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2011, 10:46:43 AM »
Thanks for letting us know how you got on Jan.  Looking forward to seeing a photo.  :) Mel

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Re: GLASS ORNAMENT ????
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2011, 07:08:45 AM »
WELL HERE ARE THE PICS


glitter ornament - w / orn. stand by jembox, on Flickr


glitter ornament - angle by jembox, on Flickr


glitter ornament - bottom by jembox, on Flickr


Premo Pearls (red green & 18k gold)
Sculpey Gloss Glaze (new formula)
Premo Ripple cutters
White Irridesent glitter
Swaroski hot fix crystals
White paint inside ornament to back up
the white glitter

The sparkel of the glitter doesn't show up well in photos

THe little green circle in the Collage photo is a ornament stand

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Re: GLASS ORNAMENT ????
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2011, 09:01:34 AM »
WOW Jan!  That's fab.  I'm wondering... Did you cover the glitter in gloss too and wait till the end to put on the gloss or did you have to varnish the pieces individually and then glue them into place?  Either way, it looks like you put a lot of effort into the ornament.  I love it!!   

:) Mel

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Re: GLASS ORNAMENT ????
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2011, 01:10:54 PM »
Jan, that is BEAUTIFUL!!
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Re: GLASS ORNAMENT ????
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2011, 03:28:03 PM »
Absolutely stunning Jan  8)

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Re: GLASS ORNAMENT ????
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2011, 04:30:06 PM »
Steps
 1 put the clay on the glass ball & baked
 2 sanded clay and had to super glue the star and red dots back onto glass
 3 using sculpey glaze (gloss) painted glitter areas of glass 1 section at a time and filled with glitter
   repeated 3 times in each section to build up glitter the coated glitter with a final coat

 4 glazed the stars and dots one at a time keeping the one i was glazing level till dry ( 2 coats x 12 pieces)
 5 put ornament on a rod UPSIDEDOWN and painted the all other areas starting an the bottom and painting
   down to the neck of ornament letting excess drip off neck ( 2 coats)
 6 painted inside of ball with white to back up the whiteness of the glitter and to prevent light from passing through.
    It took forever to dry

 7 glued on crystals ( used super glue ) it left a white chalkiness on and around jewels so i pryed them off re sanded  reglazed
    setting the crystal while the the glaze was wet
 8 touched up glaze where needed directing excess onto the glitter areas
 9 painted  glass neck of ornament with matching gold paint
 10 glued on metal cap
 

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Re: GLASS ORNAMENT ????
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2011, 04:46:35 PM »
Wow thats a lot of work isnt it - but you can see it in the quality of the final make, taking that time over every step really does pay dividends.

And, it will be something you bring out and enjoy every Christmas for years to come too I would imagine, so worth all the effort.

Thanks for sharing, its easy to forget just how many steps go into a peice of claywork until we stop and break it down like that. Its something that I think newcomers find useful too. They realise that the claywork out there they find almost intimidating as it is so good didn't get that way by accident or just luck - great claywork comes from perseverance and putting the effort in as well as artistic vision

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