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bsilverman

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Graphic Cane attempt
« on: August 11, 2011, 03:28:43 PM »
This is my attempt to make a giraffe cane. So far so good...but

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Re: Graphic Cane attempt
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2011, 03:30:05 PM »
but the results are more like a moose with a shrunken head.  lol

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Re: Graphic Cane attempt
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2011, 04:26:20 PM »
It looks good. Well done
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Re: Graphic Cane attempt
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2011, 05:32:44 PM »
lol, that looks nothing like a moose!! No moose I've ever seen, anyway...

Great job, Brian. You obviously like giraffes! They are beautiful.
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Re: Graphic Cane attempt
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2011, 06:41:00 PM »
Looks good to me too - and I am certainly noticing a Blue Giraffe theme here also!

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Re: Graphic Cane attempt
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2011, 06:52:13 PM »
Can't see the moose!!  I can see a fab giraffe - a pat on the back to you  :)

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Re: Graphic Cane attempt
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2011, 10:18:31 PM »
I reckon that looks pretty good to me!  very giraffe-like!

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Re: Graphic Cane attempt
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2011, 01:23:21 AM »
thx but they really arent usable. I will try to get a close up and you will see what i mean.

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Re: Graphic Cane attempt
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2011, 04:22:01 AM »
I seem to missing the cut that looks so much like a moose. But this pic does show the problems.

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Re: Graphic Cane attempt
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2011, 08:35:14 AM »
As you have noticed, the trouble with canes is the outer layers will move more (and therefore get more "smaller") than the inner layers.

So in the case of face canes, you can end up with huge noses and piggy eyes etc.

Sometimes you can design around this and purposefully make the elements of the cane nearer the edge a little larger in the hope that once its all reduced down, things will even out and look right. But its always a judgement call.

The only other thing is to REALLY take your time on reducing a cane like this. Let it get very cool and firm in the fridge, and pinch it out firmly from the middle of the cane. Then as soon as the cane is starting to reach room temp on its outside, bung it back in the fridge until its all consistently cool again. I've done this with canes taking literally all day on and off to reduce them and the distortion was a lot easier to avoid that way.

Things like geometric canes often don't matter so much if they distort a little. But if you have picture canes or canes with wording etc, you do have more of a problem to work around.

Another idea is to really pack the cane with a HUGE amount of background clay. You can trim that off after, but it is one way to effectively make all of the working part of the cane the "inner" area and have less of it being the outer part and subject to moving too quickly.

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Re: Graphic Cane attempt
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2011, 03:59:51 PM »
Thanks Emma, that is helpful, I also wondered if i should have made it rectangular instead of round?

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Re: Graphic Cane attempt
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2011, 07:37:22 PM »
Looks pretty cool to me. I like it a lot.  Very ambitious.  :) Mel

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Re: Graphic Cane attempt
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2011, 08:47:52 PM »
Thanks Emma, that is helpful, I also wondered if i should have made it rectangular instead of round?

You would still have to follow the same rules regarding distortion and avoiding it. Just in a square cane the elements would tend to distort in different ways

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Re: Graphic Cane attempt
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2011, 02:02:46 PM »
A square cane is harder to reduce without distortion, from my limited experience.

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Re: Graphic Cane attempt
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2011, 05:19:17 PM »
I thought that might be the case. If i were to attempt this shape again i would take Emma's advise and be sure to surround it design with lots of extra background. With the giraffe the neck and legs are so long only the body had lots of extra around it. The head had very little and it suffered the most.