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Title: Playing with alcohol inks
Post by: MilleD on October 31, 2015, 09:55:18 AM
So I've been playing with alcohol inks recently.

I started with acetates which work beautifully with the luminosity of the inks:

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5719/22009512164_18dfbc70e7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zwUvaE)Alcohol ink on acetate (https://flic.kr/p/zwUvaE) by Claire Oswald (https://www.flickr.com/photos/46494368@N03/), sur Flickr

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5806/22011132343_e97cfaee5a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/zx3NMM)Alcohol ink on acetate (https://flic.kr/p/zx3NMM) by Claire Oswald (https://www.flickr.com/photos/46494368@N03/), sur Flickr

Then I saw something called Yupo on the 'net which is a totally synthetic paper.  Not having any of this, I started experimenting with stuff I have got.

It turns out that satin photo paper behaves the same way as Yupo.  The gloss paper doesn't work though.  Not sure what it is about the satin paper but I quite like the effect:

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5718/22632120105_635b07b111_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/AtVwPk)Alcohol inks on satin photo paper (https://flic.kr/p/AtVwPk) by Claire Oswald (https://www.flickr.com/photos/46494368@N03/), sur Flickr

 :)
Title: Re: Playing with alcohol inks
Post by: ejralph on November 01, 2015, 10:23:11 AM
that is gorgeous

It would be cool to somehow transfer the pattern to polyclay too.

Emma
Title: Re: Playing with alcohol inks
Post by: MilleD on November 01, 2015, 01:01:57 PM
I was thinking maybe printing onto raw white clay. But the inks dry soooooo fast it's really difficult.
Title: Re: Playing with alcohol inks
Post by: ejralph on November 01, 2015, 04:11:39 PM
The adirondack blending solution is supposed to extend the working time of the inks. I don't have much personal experience using it though

Emma
Title: Re: Playing with alcohol inks
Post by: MilleD on November 02, 2015, 07:29:16 AM
It does, but it also removes any sort of patterns you form and merges all the inks together.  It depends what effect you are trying to achieve as to whether it's useful or not.
Title: Re: Playing with alcohol inks
Post by: ejralph on November 02, 2015, 07:08:16 PM
Ah yes, I see the problem.

Gotta just work quick then I suppose. Those patterns need to get onto clay somehow, they are too pretty!

Emma
Title: Re: Playing with alcohol inks
Post by: MilleD on November 02, 2015, 07:54:40 PM
Hmm, I wonder if a tiny swipe of blending solution on the clay itself and they making a 'print' would work.  I'll give it a go.
Title: Re: Playing with alcohol inks
Post by: ejralph on November 02, 2015, 07:57:07 PM
I was wondering similar. Maybe working the ink on something non porous like acetate type material or something?

Emma
Title: Re: Playing with alcohol inks
Post by: Karolina.S on November 02, 2015, 08:40:21 PM
Lovely patterns.

Maybe turn the paper over,put it on raw clay and spray the back with alcohol? Will this move the print to the clay?
Title: Re: Playing with alcohol inks
Post by: MilleD on November 03, 2015, 07:52:34 AM
The paper I've been using is too thick and plasticky.  And the ink sinks into normal paper.  Experiments are afoot.
Title: Re: Playing with alcohol inks
Post by: JonB on November 03, 2015, 10:30:11 PM
Printing wouldn't reproduce that effect though I don't think. It's all about the ink drying at the edges like watercolour. Which means that it doesn't look like that until it's dry, and therefore unprintable. But I could very easily be talking rubbish as I haven't tried it. . .
What happens if you paint on to raw clay? Or baked clay, maybe trans clay? would it have the same effect as you got on the acetate? Rubbing alcohol dilutes alc inks like water does watercolour, is the blending solution a gussied up version of rubbing alcohol? ;-)
Title: Re: Playing with alcohol inks
Post by: MilleD on November 04, 2015, 07:53:16 AM
Yes Jon, I think it is.  It greatly increases the working time you get.

When you put it on raw clay it doesn't do the spreading thing.  Just sort of sits there.

Maybe this one will remain the domain of paper.
Title: Re: Playing with alcohol inks
Post by: JonB on November 04, 2015, 08:27:19 AM
Or you could encase the paper image in v thin trans liquid clay, I think Donna Kato has a way of doing something like that in one of her books. . .
Title: Re: Playing with alcohol inks
Post by: MilleD on November 04, 2015, 02:45:13 PM
I still don't think it would work (for me anyway) because it only produces this effect on certain types of paper.

It would be a peice of clay with a peice of card over the top.  I like being able to see the clay.

 :)
Title: Re: Playing with alcohol inks
Post by: MilleD on November 04, 2015, 04:39:32 PM
I wonder if resin or something was put over the clay then inked over whether that might work.
Title: Re: Playing with alcohol inks
Post by: Bonipie on January 13, 2016, 09:48:11 PM
Hi, All,
I have experimented with alcohol inks, and one technique I used when I wanted more control over the ink (i.e. how much the colors blended with each other) included some or all of the following: 
Apply the ink to baked clay.
Apply in layers, using colors in areas where you might want some blending on the same layer.
Use PYM (or similar) very lightly between layers to seal.
Use alcohol in a very fine spray to pattern or blend.
If you don't like what you see, with baked clay, you can use alcohol to remove and start over.

Hugs, Boni, in wonderful Gold Canyon, Arizona at the base of the Superstition mountains
Title: Re: Playing with alcohol inks
Post by: ejralph on January 13, 2016, 10:14:29 PM
Great tips and ideas for experiments there Boni  - thank you!

I like flicking alcohol over the inks with an old toothbrush to give a cool speckled pattern.

I hope you had a nice Christmas and got lots of claying done?

Emma
Title: Re: Playing with alcohol inks
Post by: MilleD on January 14, 2016, 08:03:13 AM
Hi Boni, that all sounds very nice, but as you know, we need PICTURES :)
Title: Re: Playing with alcohol inks
Post by: ejralph on January 14, 2016, 08:54:52 PM
Hi Boni, that all sounds very nice, but as you know, we need PICTURES :)


Seconded.

Emma  :)