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Title: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: Grubbi on April 16, 2011, 01:02:19 AM
I've just purchased quite a few alcohol inks and some blending solution but found there to be no "white" ink...there's a black but no white...so how would one mix lighter colours? Any ideas? There's a pale peach colour, that might work but wouldn't be ideal.  Does anyone know of any other brand that can be mixed and does a white shade?
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: Silverleaf Shiny Stuff on April 16, 2011, 02:13:14 AM
What brand are you using? I have a lot of the Ranger Adirondack inks and they are translucent, and as far as I know there isn't a white, since that would be opaque.

If you want lighter colours just dilute the inks with the blending solution or alcohol (I've used vodka, lol).

The Ranger inks also have a pastel range which I think is called Lights... Emma definitely sells them.
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: Grubbi on April 16, 2011, 04:18:11 AM
Yeah it's the ranger stuff I've bought too. Never thought about the opacity.  How would one mix a pink for example...with paint it would be red and white...never used inks before.
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: Silverleaf Shiny Stuff on April 16, 2011, 05:00:26 AM
What colours do you have already? It sort of depends on the pink you're going for - personally I like Raspberry or Wild Plum diluted down to make a rose pink. Watermelon makes a more orangey colour.
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: ejralph on April 16, 2011, 07:58:35 AM
You can buy all sorts of paler, pastel shades from the Lights collection, including pinks.

There is a pearl mixative - which you can use to make the colours into pearlised metallic shades, and at the same time this makes them somewhat more opaque and paler, as well as shimmery.

Because they are translucent - really the colour control is all about layering and usage. Diluting with blending solution, alcohol etc and applying in thin layers will give a softer (and therefore paler) wash of colour.

Applying more thickly or with multiple layers will build up to a deeper, more intense shade.

If you really want to add a white, you could mix them with a little white acrylic paint. But at that point really you are moving away from them being inks and just turning them into paints. Inks by nature tend to be translucent and there isn't really a translucent white other than the clear of alcohol or blending solution

Emma
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: noani on April 16, 2011, 08:45:42 AM
I have a white Pinata ink but when mixing with it  the translucency of the colours disapeers and like Emma says it looks more like paint than ink. I used it on silverfoil and the foil didn't show like it use to when i mixed with white. 
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: jembox on August 03, 2011, 03:57:31 AM
try color testing differnt dilutions on white clay !!
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: oncejewellery on September 30, 2011, 11:40:10 PM
Could someone show me work done with inks? I have one bottle of purple ink (my fave colour) but I really don't know what to do with it! x
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: MelMcG on October 01, 2011, 04:43:40 PM
Amanda, have a look at Di's work on page 9 of the September Bead Gallery.  She does wonderful stuff with inks.  I've been experimenting a lot with inks lately, but I don't have anything actually finished yet to show.  Purple's my favourite colour too  :)

 :) Mel
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: ejralph on October 01, 2011, 04:49:01 PM
Try them over metal leaf and foil - that can be really cool

Emma
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: jembox on October 01, 2011, 05:59:05 PM
THIS BLACK CLAY WITH SILVER LEAF - BAKED - THEN INKS APPLIED - THEN GLAZED !

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4051/4652548493_db71d12eec.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jembox/4652548493/)
dicroic barrel beads (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jembox/4652548493/) by jembox (http://www.flickr.com/people/jembox/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: ejralph on October 01, 2011, 06:01:56 PM
Those are gorgeous Jan!

Emma
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: jembox on October 01, 2011, 06:06:08 PM
THESE ARE TRANSLUCENT CLAY SHEET RANDOMLY COLORED WITH DIFFERNT COLORS OF INK - THEN A SHEET OF FOILON 1/2 - THEN FOLDED
CLOSED - THEN STRECHED THRU THE PASTA MACH.  REPEAT FOLD AND PASTA MACH. 1 OR 2 MORE TIMES TILL THE FOIL LOOKS LIKE GLITTER SIZED
PIECES-  THIN SHEET - WRAP AROUND A TRANSLUCENT CORE ( MINE WERE PREBAKED TUBES) BAKE AND GLAZED  (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4028/4652549597_ffec1f75a7.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jembox/4652549597/)
100_1289 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jembox/4652549597/) by jembox (http://www.flickr.com/people/jembox/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: jembox on October 01, 2011, 06:07:35 PM
Thaks Emma !!
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: shelleym on October 01, 2011, 06:08:23 PM
Those are absolutely gorgeous Jan - especially the dichroic effect ones.
Shelley
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: jembox on October 01, 2011, 06:29:50 PM
Thanks Shelly.
Here are some rondels i did the same way as the first pic .
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4032/4653166528_9e827347b3.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jembox/4653166528/)
100_1275 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jembox/4653166528/) by jembox (http://www.flickr.com/people/jembox/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: oncejewellery on October 02, 2011, 12:17:59 AM
Thanks for those examples and explanations! X
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: rubyrube on October 02, 2011, 08:49:17 AM
Great stuff as always Jan. Thanks for taking the time to explain.
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: Di on October 02, 2011, 01:45:25 PM
I use ink on white clay a lot and I do find that the colours fade somewhat with baking. Purple sometimes looks more pink when it's baked too. The best thing is to do some experimenting and see what you like.

Di :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: noani on October 02, 2011, 03:21:11 PM
Those beads are amazing, Jan! I love the colours and the finishing are superb! Think I saw in an other thread that you used resin??!! If not, what glaze did you use?
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: jembox on October 02, 2011, 03:53:20 PM
Yes its is 2 part epoxie resin , envirotex lite.
but how i get it to stay on is a secrect !
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: noani on October 02, 2011, 04:20:17 PM
I haven't been able to sleep ,trying to figuring it out ;) And I haven't got a clue  8) Have to wait for you to sell the gizmo...soon I hope!
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: Bev on October 02, 2011, 08:28:11 PM
Great work Jan & very helpful explanation  :)
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: jembox on October 03, 2011, 06:29:02 AM
I just can't seem to find the time or umph to get it going
I have my prototype and it works fantastic !!
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: noani on October 03, 2011, 04:23:26 PM
If you need a swedish test pilot, just let me know   ;)
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: jembox on October 03, 2011, 06:34:03 PM
Noani , everybody needs a Swedish test pilot !!!
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: noani on October 03, 2011, 06:53:03 PM
Oh Jan...Emma's going to get upset ;) You made my day, still laughing ;D
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: ejralph on October 03, 2011, 07:32:04 PM
Honestly - it is a full moon again or something?

I think if this carries on, I am going to have to suggest Jan is re-named Finbarr Saunders  ;D

Emma
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: jembox on October 03, 2011, 07:42:49 PM
I promise to be good while your on vacation   :-X
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: ejralph on October 03, 2011, 10:55:01 PM
Yeah - like we didn't book a cottage with broadband...... I wouldn't leave you guys alone for five minutes. Who knows what I'd come back to  :o :o :o

Emma  :P :P
Title: Using Alcohol Inks
Post by: Crafty Tash on November 06, 2011, 06:19:21 PM
Thanks for the tip on using alcohol inks over the metal leaf after it has been baked.  I had been experimenting, using the metal leaf, then inks with a final layer of translucent.  Despite the layer being really thin I wasn't very pleased with my results.  I am going to give this a go as I love the look of the beads shown in this thread by Gembox - happy polytherapy!
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: Crafty Tash on November 07, 2011, 08:56:28 PM
Can anyone give me some guidance on using alcohol inks please.  I have used silver leaf over my clay and then dabbed on some inks in various hues. Having left it to dry,  I find that as soon as I work the clay the ink comes off in my hands.  I keep experimenting with this technique but haven't made a success of it yet.
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: noani on November 07, 2011, 09:19:22 PM
You can cover the inksheet with a VERY thin layer of translucent when it's completly dry! Then run it through the pasta machine  on a medium setting.Helps to thin the trans even more.When you sand and buff the finished piece/bead the translucent wount show.
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: fluff on November 08, 2011, 09:49:46 PM
Wow - there are some eye-poppingly gorgeous beads here - lovely
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: polynana on November 08, 2011, 10:25:40 PM
You can cover the inksheet with a VERY thin layer of translucent when it's completly dry! Then run it through the pasta machine  on a medium setting.Helps to thin the trans even more.When you sand and buff the finished piece/bead the translucent wount show.

That's just what I do too.
Title: Re: Alcohol Inks?
Post by: jembox on November 09, 2011, 04:06:52 AM
thanks Faith !!!!